I’ve been blogging for 16 years, giving away all my best ideas and advice. I spent time thinking about monetizing my writing by moving to a subscription model on Substack. What I concluded might surprise you and perhaps guide your own monetization strategy.

Today I’ll cover:

• My current content monetization strategy
• A high-level view of Medium versus Substack
• My in-depth analysis of the risks and opportunities with Substack
• A final conclusion

Allow me to share a little story about how blogging drives my business.

The inbound marketing model

A few years ago, I received this email:

“Hi Mark. I’ve been reading your blog for three years and have become a real fan. I purchased your latest book and wanted to let you know it is one of the best business books I’ve read in the last 10 years. Just thought it was time to tell you how much I appreciate your work.”

It was signed by the CMO of a Fortune 100 company.

Two years later, he hired me to help organize a new content marketing department. I didn’t bid on the job. He just hired me because he grew to know me and trust me through my content.

Let’s break this down and reveal the classic “inbound” marketing strategy:

1. This person discovered my content and subscribed. I didn’t pay anything for this connection. It was organic, driven by the helpful content I freely put into the world.
2. After reading my content for several years, a trusting relationship developed. It was one-way, of course, but he grew to trust me entirely through the blog content.
3. Three years into this relationship, he bought a book, his first purchase from me.
4. Five years after he subscribed to the blog, he hired me for my most profitable assignment of the year.

And this is the way the world has worked for me, over and over again.

I’ve never made any money directly from my blog content — no ads, paid links, or sponsored posts. But when people trust my content, they hire me for speeches, workshops, and consulting. They’ll buy my books, purchase a consulting hour, or come to my Uprising retreat.

I’ve had a successful, profitable career by giving away content for free.

But many people are earning significant income on Substack. As I move to a slower pace of life, is it time for me to monetize my content directly and charge for it?

Substack versus Medium

There are many ways to monetize content directly, but the two big ones are Medium and Substack.

So far, my strategy has been to publish content on my website and then publish for free on both of these sites. Since both platforms have millions of subscribers, this allows my content to reach new audiences. For example, I have more than 45,000 followers on Medium. Medium articles also tend to rank well on Google.

Medium has another advantage — you’re paid by the number of people who read your content. By simply re-publishing a blog post on Medium, I average a modest $250/month, which is better than the imaginary benefit of Likes and retweets. And, there was an unforgettable month I made $10,000 on Medium. It’s like hitting that one great golf shot. It could happen again, right?

High-earning posts result from a Medium “boost” that floats your article beyond your audience so many more people read it. When does Medium boost? Who knows. It’s unpredictable and frustrating.

Substack has a smaller user base compared to Medium, but offers a business model with a more reliable income stream. People pay for your content through a subscription, and as long as you provide value, the income flows. You’re in charge of your revenue potential by growing your paid audience rather than relying on an algorithmic  Medium boost.

I currently publish for free on Substack — why not? I’ve attracted far fewer followers there compared to Medium … less than 1,000. And I’ve never made a dime there because to succeed, you must commit to a subscription model and refrain from publishing anywhere else. Many people are making a healthy living on Substack. Is it time for me to finally have a reliable income stream directly from my content?

The Substack life

Focusing on Substack as an income stream would require major changes:

• I’d have to create at least one in-depth post per week, and maybe more (I can do that).
• I would stop publishing original blog content on my own website.
• I’d have to develop and grow a Substack community with bonus events and content to add value.
• I would have to move my current blog/Medium audience to a paid subscription on Substack.

While I can commit to creating great content every week, the other changes represent significant risks. Let’s look at each one.

1. The end of the content on my site

As I researched this opportunity, I looked at the websites of Substack stars. If you click “blog,” you’ll find a link to Substack. There is no web-based blog any more.

There is a serious functional implication to this. Without regular, fresh content on my site, my SEO/AI signals dry up. My website isn’t just a blog; it’s a legacy media asset. It’s a lead generation machine.

If the site goes dormant, I lose:

• Authority signals

• Fresh content triggers

• Long-tail organic reach

• Visibility when AI search dominance arrives

That is just too much to lose. The sensible option would be to create two different posts for my site and for Substack. Double the work? No thanks.

2. Moving my audience to Substack

How many of my free blog readers will pay for Substack content? The research shows it will be 5% or less.

But those “free” readers have fueled my entire business model.

• Book sales

• Speaking leads

• Personal branding classes

• Media invitations

• Uprising retreat attendees

• Word-of-mouth leads

The average annual subscription price on Substack is $96. Assuming that 5% of my subscribers move, it’s probably not worth the financial risk.

And there’s another consideration. What if Substack goes out of business?

3. Building a community

The most successful Substack pros fully leverage the platform’s ability to create community through commenting, special events, and exclusive livestreams.

This would be a major benefit of Substack. But I already have a community called RISE. I’ve poured my heart and soul into that community, and I love the people there. I don’t have the need or bandwidth to duplicate that effort.

So a Substack community has no appeal or financial benefit.

The overarching goal

In summary, I certainly have an opportunity to monetize through Substack, but the risk of losing my SEO value and large audience overwhelms the benefits.

In the end, it comes down to my goals at this stage in my life. Money is less important than it was ten years ago. I want my ideas to spread. I want to help and teach. I want to find interesting projects that challenge me and connect me to cool people. I want to maintain a healthy and profitable speaking career.

A regular Substack income jeopardizes:

• SEO discovery for my website
• Serendipity (that random CMO, journalist, or CEO finding me)
• Long-tail inbound traffic
• A large, loyal audience

Monetizing content directly could actually shrink my economic surface area.

At this point in my life, a wide audience and the highest level of discoverability outweigh the potential of a steady income. I’ll stay the course and monetize through the indirect method.

Drop me a line and let me know if you’ve come up with a different strategy for your content.

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More than a decade ago, I predicted that the surge in digital content would trigger a content arms race. I called this Content Shock. To stand out amid this tsunami of posts, podcasts, and Reels, it would require higher levels of investment in creative resources or promotions, and likely both. I forecast that as content niches became saturated, it would be impossible for many businesses to compete.

While this sounds like common sense, at the time, this was probably the most controversial marketing blog post ever written. The idea sent a chill down the spines of content marketing service providers, and I became a target of derision.

Of course I was right. Today, Content Shock isn’t a theory. It’s a daily reality made worse by this relentless barrage of AI content.

Is there a strategy to overcome Content Shock today?

Yes, but we are about to take an unexpected turn.

I want to be very direct about your future and your content, whether you are creating for a company, a customer, or a personal brand.

There have been many posts about AI taking over our marketing jobs. I won’t sugarcoat things. I think that is probably true. Follow the money. Companies have to make an ROI from AI investments, and the unfortunate first place they’ll look is headcount.

The hopeful marketers out there opine that truly “authentic” content will save our jobs. That is not enough. Bots can be pretty convincing.

I believe there is a permanent place for human content, but success requires a radical new mindset. Let’s get into it.

Reaching toward Springsteen

I recently listened to AI-generated songs that mimicked Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. In fact, the sound was indistinguishable.

But would  I ever pay money to see a computer in concert? No. I want to see the man. The Boss.

Why? Isn’t music just music?

The difference is, Bruce means something to me because he’s an artist. He communicates in a very raw, intimate way, interpreting our human experience.

I’ve loved Brice since I was a kid, and I will always love him, no matter what happens with AI. Likewise, there will be poets, painters, and even podcasters I will always love, even if AI overwhelms us with fantastic content tailored to us (which is already happening).

So this is the key idea. If you are competent, you’re a commodity. You’re ignorable. Your content must approach the level of Bruce, or at least what would be considered star-quality in your industry. Your content must approach the emotional level of art.

I’ve never heard a content marketing strategy explained this way before, but it is a new day, and this demands new rules.

If you’re chunking out blog posts and podcasts because you’re afraid not to, your time is up. Even “human” storytelling can be effectively mimicked by bots. But there is one place we will always own — our human vulnerability.

The advantage in vulnerability

Here’s an example of what I mean.

Not long ago, I wrote a blog post about accomplishing a great lifetime achievement and then feeling completely empty … even depressed.

I told the people in my RISE community that I was afraid to write a blog post about this — wouldn’t I come across as a jerk? Here is a dude who is so successful he’s depressed. Sheesh.

But I have this internal signal. Whenever I am afraid of something, I do it. That’s how I grow.

So I wrote the post and received a massive outpouring of positive comments. Why? I’m convinced it was the unexpected vulnerability. In other words, I was providing an interpretation of my human experience. That is art.

I had a human point of view. AI does not have a point of view. If you prompt three AI platforms to create a movie script, you will get three of the same movies based on successful formulas from the past. If you put this same prompt in the hands of three directors, you’ll get three entirely different movies based on their human experience.

As we move forward with our “human content,” vulnerability is usually the missing factor. We can’t just slap a stock photo of people in an office on our content and call it “human.” Where is the human experience? Where is the point of view?

The only way we’ll be different from the bots is by digging deep and having the courage to share our human experience. That small difference elevates content beyond the bots.

Turning vulnerability into business benefits

Roxana Hurducas is an acclaimed B2B branding expert and co-founder of Drivion. She recently told me an extraordinary story of how sharing her life experience on a Facebook page laid the foundation for her business success:

Roxana Hurducas

“Ten years ago, building a personal brand wasn’t on my radar. Yet, looking back, I realize I was laying its foundation brick by brick, without even knowing it.

“At the time, I worked as a marketing and PR manager for a courier company. It was my name and face, not a faceless corporate logo, that responded to client issues and concerns on Facebook. I answered from my personal account, treating every message with empathy and honesty. People really loved that human touch, though sometimes, I’ll admit, it was overwhelming.

“Later, after a very public life event—a brain surgery I openly shared about—I stepped into a new level of vulnerability with my audience. Sharing my life reality, not just my business wins, built even more trust and a genuine connection.

“As my personal life evolved, I realized I wanted to separate my family’s stories from my professional updates. I started a new account, “The Untraditional Family,” where I was radically honest about topics like raising my kids, navigating divorce, and even my third marriage. At first, I thought these stories would interest a different audience, but something surprising happened.

“Whether they first ‘met’ me through business or family stories, my audiences began to merge. People who knew me as the marketing manager followed my personal account. And those who followed my family journey became interested in my professional activities. The reason? Vulnerability, authenticity, and honesty. By sharing both the challenges and the joys of my human experience — the parts of life most people hide — I became not just a brand or a professional, but a fully relatable person.

“Now, when I meet people at events, they already know me. They trust me, not only as a communications professional, but as a woman, a mother, a partner, and a human being who owns her story. That trust, hard-earned and real, extends to every business relationship I have.

“If there’s a lesson here, it’s this: people need stories, especially stories they can relate to. And allowing your audience to see the real, unfiltered you — beyond your résumé — can become your strongest professional asset.”

How is Roxana’s storytelling different from that of any great artist? Like our favorite artists, painters, and poets, she is bravely connecting to an audience through her interpretation of life and its meaning.

And AI can’t touch that.

Art from anybody

I recognize that Roxana’s level of personal sharing is unique and may be uncomfortable for many people. But just showing any humanity at all can give you an edge in a boring, buttoned-up field.

I recently had a coaching call with a well-known gastrointestinal surgeon. He was building a new business and recognized an opportunity to create content on his website.

“I don’t have a human story, he said. “I’m a scientist. I talk about facts. I talk about fiber in your diet. How is this anything that approaches art?”

My suggested content:

“I was sitting at my kitchen table with the sun streaming through the window on a beautiful day. My wife came to the table with a plate of hot, homemade cinnamon bread. Yes, this was a wonderful treat. But it was also a gift of life. My wife knows how important fiber is in our diet, and she makes a special point of preparing meals high in fiber. She plans our meal around fiber. You might be wondering exactly how much fiber you need, so let’s talk about that today …”

“OK,” the physician said, “I get it!”

My point is, whether you are in B2B, B2C, or a doctor writing about fiber, everyone has a human story for human readers.

The creator versus the Content Artist

Some of the following ideas were inspired by the work of Scott Belsky.

Here’s a comparison of the content creator who AI will replace versus the Content Artist who will persist.

The Creators of today …

Creators trade quality for speed. They’re only trying to get a good-enough video cut, or they’re flooding the zone with TikTok posts to meet a schedule and hit an engagement goal.

Creators must conform to algorithms, which makes their content ephemeral.

The entry barriers to being a Creator are low. Prompt-driven, generative AI tools lower the floor so that anyone can be a Creator of some kind.

For Creators, the content is the means, not an end.

The Content Artists … 

Content Artists are never willing to trade beauty for speed. Sure, artists do quick sketches and explorations, but these exercises serve to explore the full range of possibilities.

They require creative control, and giving it up to a prompt-based generative tool is like a sculptor working without their hands.

Only Content Artists craft the meaning-infused stories that thrill and break us. While their work may not be fast or optimized for clicks, their stories teach us about ourselves and advance our understanding of the world.

Content Artists make units of culture.

That’s why we will always love the artists. And that’s what it takes for an audience to love you, too.

People conflate what enables creators with what might replace artists. People see the “AI slop” capabilities of new generative models and then declare the “end of fine art” and “RIP Hollywood,” as if the founding of McDonald’s would kill our desire for fine cuisine.

You still matter. But you must become an artist.

Overcoming Content Shock in an AI World

Here’s the great enigma of this reality.

Content Artists need time, freedom, and space. They need patience and reward for the risks they take. They need control of their workflow and pace.

This list of needs would be laughed out of most boardrooms eager to harvest human capital from AI investments.

So this is an opportunity, isn’t it? Great marketing is about non-conformity, not conformity. If everyone is zigging toward AI slop, maybe the most audacious move is zagging away from it.

Content Shock is nothing new. Let’s be honest. Does it really matter if we have a hundred competitors or a million of them? We’re not going to win by creating more AI slop that just adds to the problem.

As content creators use AI to flood the zone and grab our attention as cheaply and efficiently as possible, consumers will still crave more crafted, deeply human stories. As creating content becomes easier, the bar for what makes an extraordinary and unforgettable story will rise to the level of art.

Will you rise with it?

Need an inspiring keynote speaker? Mark Schaefer is the most trusted voice in marketing. Your conference guests will buzz about his insights long after your event! Mark is the author of some of the world’s bestselling marketing books, a college educator, and an advisor to many of the world’s largest brands. Contact Mark to have him bring a fun, meaningful, and memorable presentation to your company event or conference.

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Here’s a startling reality every blogger must come to terms with: Even your biggest fans miss much of your content. It’s simple math. The average email open rate is about 30%. Mine is about 45% but that means that week in and week out, 55% of my subscribers miss out on my content.

So each year I re-cap my most popular posts of the year with a little “behind-the-scenes” story behind the post. Here we go.

1. When There’s No More “Up.” Lessons from the Top of the Mountain

I typically write about marketing ideas and trends, but the response to this post showed that people appreciate personal stories. I received so many comments on this post, which captured a very strange and unexpected reaction after I had achieved a great career milestone.

2. I Just Met My AI Clone. It Was 90% Me and 10% Existential Crisis

We are in the early days of using AI to create synthetic entities, and this was a wake-up call when a friend uploaded my content to mimic me. It led to an introspective period for me — what is my role in the world when AI can act like me? It led to the creation of MarkBot, an expert-trained model I’ve published to help people for free.

3. Is it time to embrace ethically-sourced marketing?

The idea that marketing is the root cause of many societal problems swirled around in my head for years and it was time to bring it into the world. The reaction to this post was huge as I discovered many people had the same concerns. Hopefully this is the beginning of a larger conversation.

4. The LinkedIn growth secrets nobody talks about

Most people get so very little traction on LinkedIn. But it’s not that hard. A big success with a tiny post was all the excuse I needed to teach a few tips and tricks to boost LinkedIn success.

5. Rage Farms: The Hidden Industry Weaponizing Outrage Against Brands

I was captivated by the politicization of the Cracker Barrel drama. Are we in a world where marketers can’t do their jobs (even a bad one) without becoming a national news story?

But there was a bigger question — Why did this happen and who was behind it? This became investigative journalism and the answers I found should shock and dismay every business leader.

6. The sad and mysterious tale of my invisible book

This was probably the weirdest post of the year. I peeled back the curtain on one of my biggest career disappointments — Cumulative Advantage. This might be my most beloved and best-reviewed book and it never took off. I’ve been haunted by this failure and told my story.

7. Please. Let’s stop the B.S. about personal brands

Just seeing this headline gets my emotions up again. I am so tired of people disparaging personal brands, especially those with strong personal brands! A post by Adam Grant was the tipping point …

8. Protecting Your Content From AI: Not So Fast!

I was concerned that my friends were missing an obvious factor in AI success. We might want to protect our content from AI bots, but aren’t we better served by integrating with the system? A non-obvious idea!

9. My All-time Best Interviewer Was an AI Bot

In 2025, I did more than 250 interviews, but this one might be the most memorable. The “person” who asked the best questions was my AI friend ChatGPT.

10. The 10 biggest marketing challenges have nothing to do with AI

My readers loved this post, perhaps because it was a break from AI and a return to some reminders that the fundamentals of marketing are still important.

Thanks everyone for reading my blog in 2025!

Need an inspiring keynote speaker? Mark Schaefer is the most trusted voice in marketing. Your conference guests will buzz about his insights long after your event! Mark is the author of some of the world’s bestselling marketing books, a college educator, and an advisor to many of the world’s largest brands. Contact Mark to have him bring a fun, meaningful, and memorable presentation to your company event or conference.

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For more than 15 years, I’ve studied and written about “rising above the noise” — how a business or individual can be seen, heard, and discovered amid the overwhelming wall of content competition.

Since I wrote about Content Shock more than 10 years ago, the total number of hours each day that consumers spend watching, listening to, reading, and interacting with content has barely grown. At the same time, technological innovations in production and distribution, the rise of user-generated content, and the proliferation of premium content have created a dizzying array of new choices.

This is Content Shock on steroids. There are 50 times more amateur uploaders than professionals on Spotify, 25,000 times more hours of content produced last year on YouTube than on all traditional television networks and video streaming services, and AI has flood the zone and is now the dominant source of web content.

So you can imagine my excitement when I discovered a new McKinsey Research report that offers an important new clue about how content actually cuts through effectively.

The breakthrough idea in this report is that most businesses focus on the time spent on content and the size of their audience. This overlooks a more important issue: the quality of time spent.

Not all consumer attention is created equal. Consumption and monetization vary widely across the content marketing spectrum, and the quality of the attention is the reason for that variability.

Let’s dive into this today and learn about how to measure and optimize the quality of attention on your content.

The drivers of attention value

Backed by an in-depth survey of 7,000 consumers worldwide, McKinsey developed an “attention equation” that reveals the full drivers of attention value. Attention doesn’t simply equal the amount of time spent; it equals the amount of valuable time spent, driven by focus and intent. 

Using a new equation, McKinsey measured the value of consumer attention across 20 media channels. Not all content types are created alike. The value of an hour of consumption ranged from:

$33 per hour for live sports,

$17 per hour for live concerts

$7.18 for movies

$0.37 for books

$0.25 for social media posts

$0.12 per hour for digital music

$0.05 for podcasts

This is common sense. If you’re attending a live sports event or a concert,  you’ve paid a lot of money for that “content.” You’re committed!

But looking at the “lower tier” of content we usually produce — social media posts and podcasts — there’s a massive difference McKinsey describes as an “attention quotient.”

The attention quotient consists of two primary components: 1) consumers’ level of focus, or how actively they’re engaged with the content, and 2) the job to be done, or why they are consuming the content. Taken together, these components have significant predictive power on monetization.

Let’s look at these two factors — level of focus and the job to be done — more carefully to see how this might work in practice in our own companies.

Level of focus

McKinsey’s research revealed several insights about where and how consumer focus differs across media:

• In-person experiences elicit the highest level of focus.
• Books (digital and physical) engage audiences to a comparable degree with live experiences
• Console and PC gaming is the only digital medium that gets close to live levels of focus
• Community events create a high level of focus, even in digital, where group activities elicit higher focus than more solitary activities.
• Younger consumers aren’t less attentive; they just pay attention to different media. Gen Z consumers and baby boomers report the same average level of focus, but it’s split across different media: Gen Z consumers are highly focused when playing video games, while boomers prefer reading.
• Overall, the more focused consumers are, the more likely they are to spend. Across consumers, a 10 percent increase in average focus paid across media is associated with a 17 percent increase in consumer spending. Consumers in the top quartile of focus spend twice as much as those in the bottom quartile.

The job to be done

The second factor builds on a famous framework created by Clayton Christensen. When a person consumes your content, what are they “hiring it” for? What is the job to be done?

The primary “job to be done” of media consumption falls into one of five categories (from most to least valuable):

1. To enjoy something that I love. In-person experiences—including live concerts and music festivals, theme parks, sporting events, and movie theaters—dominate this category. Physical books and (to a far lesser extent) audiobooks are also consumed primarily for love.
2. For education and information. This is the primary job to be done for newspapers, magazines, and podcasts.
3. For social connection. This is the primary job of social media sites (Facebook more so than others). Social video (including Instagram reels and TikTok but not YouTube), live events, and video games overindex on this role.
4. For light entertainment and relaxation. This is the primary job of cable television, video streaming, social video, and mobile and console gaming.
5. For background ambience. This is the primary role of radio, digital music, podcasts, and cable television.

Adding these two factors to our content analysis begins to shed light on why not all marketing-related content is created equal:

Implications for demographics

The research also allowed McKinsey to tease out three distinct customer groups based on their high level of economic value:

Content lovers

Entertainment omnivores represent 13 percent of all consumers. Curious and passionate, they spend 2.4 times more money on content and consume 1.7 times more content than the average consumer. They’re the superfans, casting their consumption nets wide to see the movie franchise, watch the spin-off show, ride the themed roller coaster, and buy the items advertised at every step.

Interactivity enthusiasts

The immersion seekers (16 percent). Competitive and lively, they love video games, sports, online betting, and comedy. They prefer endorsements to advertisements, overindex in user-generated content, and spend a reasonable amount of time on online message boards such as Reddit. Although eager consumers, they find the modern media landscape confusing, difficult to navigate, and overly expensive.

Community trendsetters

The culture creators (10 percent). Extroverted tastemakers, they seek out large communal events such as concerts, movies, and theme parks. They’re active on social media and drive online culture and fandom, often with outsize spending on their hobbies and interests. They enjoy advertisements more than any other segment, and when they’re not setting the cultural conversation, they’re shopping.

The report clusters the remaining 60 percent of consumers in groups with lower attention value, and thus lower economic value.

Implications for marketers

The competition for consumer attention has long been measured by audience size and time spent. This view misses the whole story (a point I made in my 2017 book, The Content Code).

It also reinforces the basic idea behind Content Shock: you’re probably going to have to pay more for the content types that cut through the noise.

The attention equation helps clarify what the winners in that competition have suspected: Quality and relevance, not just quantity, of attention go a long way in determining success. In a media environment defined by abundance, fragmentation, and distraction, marketers must ask themselves:

• Is my content designed for high focus or low focus?

• What job am I really being hired for?

• How can I elevate the focus or shift the job?

Think about this practical example: Google wanted to shine a light on the Nobel Prize-winning work of its genius AI leader, Demis Hassabis.

Most companies might put out a press release or a blog post — very low attention value. But Google produced a full-length documentary called The Thinking Game. It already has 14 million views on YouTube alone.

According to the McKinsey formula, this film is already worth more than $100 million in attention. Let’s say it took $5 million to make the film. This would break most content marketing budgets, but within the McKinsey model, that is a bargain. And that return on attention that will only grow as the movie is viewed over time.

Implications for strategy

This research tells us something I’ve been circling around for years: the brands that win aren’t the ones who shout the loudest, but the ones who create moments that matter. Attention is no longer a game of volume. It’s not about hacking the algorithm or flooding the zone. It’s about earning focus and aligning with the deeper job your audience needs you to do in their lives.

That’s the frontier now. Not more content … but higher-quality attention.

The companies that embrace this shift will stop measuring the wrong things. They’ll stop obsessing about impressions and start designing for immersion. They’ll stop producing noise and view content as nourishment. And in a world overwhelmed by Content Shock, that will be the ultimate competitive advantage.

I also want to connect the dots between the Attention Equation and a post I wrote about ethically-sourced marketing. If we turn our focus to higher-value content, it could reduce the social media “litter” that drives up energy costs and funds online hate and bullying.

Make something worth hiring. Make something worth focusing on. Make something worthy of the precious, finite human attention that has become the most valuable currency in the world.

Need an inspiring keynote speaker? Mark Schaefer is the most trusted voice in marketing. Your conference guests will buzz about his insights long after your event! Mark is the author of some of the world’s bestselling marketing books, a college educator, and an advisor to many of the world’s largest brands. Contact Mark to have him bring a fun, meaningful, and memorable presentation to your company event or conference.

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I’ve been working on an AI-fueled MarkBot that I’ll make available to you one day soon. I’ve been testing it and asked it to dig deep into all the content on the internet about me, providing me with interview questions I’ve never been asked before — questions I would love to answer.

The result was fun and inspiring. The bot provided questions that were surprising and wonderfully thought-provoking. So, today, I am answering my own questions. Why not? If these ten questions from my MarkBot amused me, maybe they will entertain and inform you, too.

This is a first for me, maybe a first for anybody. I suppose I am interviewing myself.

Here we go with the AI questions and my answers:

1. If “brand community” were a person, what kind of personality would it have?

It would be like Mr. Rogers.

Fred Rogers was an iconic American TV personality who hosted a long-running children’s TV program. Fred Rogers always led with love. Didn’t judge. Offered new wisdom every day. Didn’t hide from tough topics. And he never pressured you to buy anything.

2. “You write often about belonging as a marketing force. But what role has belonging played in your own life?”

I do not make friends easily. I wish I had more close friends, and I am working on that.

A great benefit of hosting my online marketing community is that day after day, I have significant conversations with people that turn into real friendships.

So although I have had a lack of belonging in my life, I feel like I’m in the right place at the right time getting to experience the connections through an online community.

You can learn more about the RISE community here and I hope you will join us. Maybe we’ll even become friends!

3. “You’ve warned about ‘content shock’ for over a decade. Is it possible that we’ve now entered an era of insight shock where even wisdom is becoming a commodity?”

To level-set new readers, I coined the term “content shock” in 2014 to explain why, in the long run, most content marketing is not economically sustainable. While considered controversial and even inflammatory at the time, this prediction certainly came true as the cost of competing in an oversaturated marketing world sank in.

Now, we’re in a world where content is a commodity. Not just content, but intelligence. Through AI, the economic value of intelligence is approaching zero.

Perhaps we are becoming numb to the magic of AI, but a few years ago, the idea of a computer coming up with these relevant and provocative questions would have been unthinkable.

I could argue that wisdom (knowing the correct answers) is a commodity. But that’s not the same as insight. Insight is a human revelation. It’s connecting the dots in a new way. And that is something AI will never be able to replace.

4. “You speak of ‘seams’ in Cumulative Advantage — brief openings for momentum. Have you ever overlooked a seam in your own career? What did it teach you about timing or regret?”

I have missed many seams … intentionally. Here is an example.

In 2012, I published the first book on influencer marketing, Return On Influence. This book was years ahead of its time. The term “influence marketing” was not even a mainstream concept. I was forecasting a seam: power was shifting in our world from established media channels to creators building passionate audiences.

With this insight, I could have become the “go-to” guy for influence marketing. I could have created an influencer marketing agency and plowed right through that seam.

But I decided not to because I would have been bored out of my mind. I don’t want to work on the same thing every day. I had no desire to build an influencer agency with a staff of employees.

I have carefully selected my seams, and I don’t have any regrets about missing out on any particular opportunity.

5. What do you admire most about your younger self’s marketing mindset? What do you shake your head at?

To put it mildly, I was a very “heart-centered” young man in high school and college. But when I entered the world of business, numbers and financial performance usually took precedence, and I had to learn that hard lesson. Thankfully, I had an understanding and nurturing boss who helped guide me on a more analytical path.

Eventually, I was part of a program to groom me into one of the top leaders of a Fortune 100 company. But once I had children, I felt that the sacrifices required to keep going up the corporate ladder were too great, and I needed to find my heart again.

I once had a teacher who told me, “there is no weakness, just over-done strengths,” and I believe that is true. It’s good to be heart-centered, but if that is all you have to offer, you might not make the best business decisions. You must have a keen appreciation of business realities to succeed. Today, I think I am pretty balanced between my heart and my head.

So I love the heart of my younger self, and I’m glad I have revitalized it.

6. “In the book KNOWN, you help others build influence. But what’s the one part of being known that no one prepared you for?”

Many years ago, a young man nervously approached me at a conference and said, “It took all my courage to come up and talk to you.”

That just broke my heart. I think I am an accessible person. I never want to send out an elitist celebrity vibe. I cut my own grass and do my own laundry like most people, for goodness’ sake. I never, ever want people to be nervous or intimidated around me. I was unprepared for that kind of reaction and have always felt weird about it.

7. What’s something your non-marketing friends or family understand about your work better than some marketers do?

Nothing. As far as I know, none of my friends or family members understand what I do (other than my wife). I don’t think they read my blog or books. Probably don’t even know I have a podcast. That’s fine with me. What I do seems irrelevant to personal relationships.

8. What’s a moment of unexpected joy you’ve experienced on stage or with a reader that you’ll never forget?

There are so many. It’s hard to pick just one!

There was one moment, though, that put wind beneath my wings.

If you’ve read my book on personal branding, KNOWN (hey, you’re my Bot… of course, you’ve read KNOWN!), in the first chapter, I tell a story about the beginning of my personal branding journey. I was at the lowest point in my life. My darkest years.

At the end of the book, I could report some of the benefits of that long journey to become known. After a speech in Scotland, a young woman approached me with tears in her eyes. “I just wanted to see you and tell you that I am who I am because of you.”

And then, there were tears in my eyes, too. For the first time, it dawned on me the type of impact I was having on my readers.

9. You’ve seen the rise of social media, influencer marketing, and AI—what’s a trend you once believed in that didn’t pan out?

I’ve had a decent track record when it comes to forecasting what’s coming next, but I had one memorable miss.

I thought voice assistants like Alexa would become the future of e-commerce. And, perhaps they should be. Perhaps, they will be one day — with AI assistance.

But it’s been a bomb so far. I thought Alexa would open up a dominant new marketing channel.

10. If all your books were wiped out tomorrow and you could only save one sentence from everything you’ve written, what would it be?

That’s easy.

“The Most Human Company Wins.”

That nails it for me.

What do you think of this interview? Does it give you ideas of how you can use AI for your own content and marketing ideas?

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The introduction of AI as our friend / co-worker / companion / enemy has heightened the emotion in our marketing discussions, but perhaps nothing has fanned the outrage more than the idea that AI survives by stealing our content. Protecting our content from AI has become a global obsession.

One company just posed a solution that raised eyebrows. Cloudflare, a technology company that helps websites secure and manage internet traffic, introduced a new permission-based setting that enables customers to automatically block artificial intelligence companies from collecting their digital data.

The company, which handles about 20 percent of all internet traffic, has seen a sharp increase in AI data crawlers on the web. It has proposed setting up “toll roads” where AI companies would pay to access content.

A cry of “YEEESSS!” undoubtedly echoed through the halls of many publishers and authors. Finally, the mighty economics of this revolution are tilting in our favor. But has it?

Before you sign up for this sheath of protection, consider the big picture.  If the crawlers refuse to pay for your content, do you want to be out of the search index? We gave away our content to appease Google. Now we have to do it again to make the AI overlords happy. I, for one, will not adopt the Cloudflare policy.

Two years ago, I published an article that now seems prescient: Protecting Your Content from AI: A Contrarian View. The insight from this post bears repeating in light of these important developments, so here is a re-cap:

The Contrarian View

There has been a flurry of panicked posts about protecting your content from AI. There have been lawsuits, probes, and new software that prevents sites like ChatGPT from accessing your content from being absorbed into large language models. Within 14 days of the availability of code that can prevent AI data scraping, nearly 20% of the top 1,000 websites in the world began using it.

What should you and your business do? Should you keep AI away?

My advice today seems counterintuitive. Maybe when AI comes to suck up your content, you should say, “suck away.” Actually, we need to come up with a better phrase than that. But you know what I mean.

Let’s pause, take a deep breath, and rationally examine the issue of protecting your content from AI in the context of your future business success.

Acknowledging complexity

First, I must acknowledge that this is an insanely complex and evolving issue. The legal, ethical, and economic considerations for large enterprises, newspapers, movie studios, and other media companies are unique.

When it comes to protecting your content from AI, any individual artist, author, or other creator may disagree with me, and I honor their right to make their own decisions.

My post today specifically aims at content creators, entrepreneurs, and businesses trying to rise above the noise and achieve business benefits from their content marketing.

The bottom line is that I believe more business benefits will accrue to you by NOT protecting your content from AI, even if it is copyrighted. To understand why, let’s begin by reviewing an important content marketing philosophy …

Unleash your content

Here is a fundamental truth: The economic value of content that is not seen and shared is zero.

Chances are you’re working hard to create amazing content. You post on social media and engage with fans to build your audience. All good. Now, your job is to get that content to move through your audience and beyond, and that means focusing on content transmission (This strategy was the subject of my book The Content Code).

I’ve been against gated content, and the ridiculous notion that you shouldn’t publish on “rented land.” Of course you should. My view is, publish your content everywhere your audience could possibly find it, consume it, and share it! Unleash your content!

The first consideration: If you protect your content from AI — a technology that is becoming the foundation of search and content discovery — and your competitors don’t, will you be better off? Probably not.

An old dilemma

The argument about protecting your content from AI is strangely familiar. This is the same debate we had in the early days of content marketing — “What??? You want me to give away my content and best ideas for free?”

Yes, we all had to do that because if we didn’t provide free and helpful content, the competitor down the street would. Their content would be highlighted by search, discovered, and shared … and we would lose.

Publishing free content was a radical idea. Before the internet, many businesses generated revenue from their proprietary content. Research firms built profitable businesses by selling original reports for hundreds of thousands of dollars. That business model is now nearly obsolete. For better or for worse, information flows freely on the web. Once you publish anything, anywhere, it will probably find its way to the open waters of the web.

Let’s get specific about what’s happening to copyrighted content today, with or without AI. I put tremendous effort into my books, and making money from a business book is no easy task. Every month, I discover some nefarious group selling illegally digitized versions of my books. There are even sites that sell my blog posts as aids in writing student term papers.

For a while, I tried to fight back. But it’s like that arcade game Whac-A-Mole. Every time I try to take a whack, another illegal site pops up somewhere else. If people truly want to access and share your content, there is no recourse, no stopping it.

So, even if you create a wall around your content, it will probably seep into the AI machine anyway. If you use software defense against AI, what would prevent someone from manually cutting and pasting it into an LLM?

Let’s put the issue of attribution aside for a moment. If you’re not freaked out by Google using your content for free, why are you freaked out about AI using it?

My first business from AI

A few months ago, I secured my first consulting contract from ChatGPT.

A new client found me by searching for “top 10 marketing experts.” I tried this myself, and the list would shuffle on each query, but I was usually in the top 10. Friends tried this in Europe, and the same names came up.

Let’s be honest. Am I one of the top 10 marketing experts in the world? No, I’m not. I could easily name 10 people in my circle of immediate friends who are smarter than me!

How did I make that AI-generated list? It’s the same way I show up on “best-of” blog lists and Google search results — I’ve had the tenacity and courage to put my content into the world with fierce consistency for 15 years.

AI is the future of search — it’s called Search Generative Experience (SGE). It’s already incorporated into Google.

My new client found me because I’m present on the web, and now I’m also present on AI. I believe that will serve me well as search evolves.

The cost of invisibility

Beyond revenue, there is an implication for impact and influence.

One of the organizations fighting AI content practices is The New York Times. This news organization is arguably the newspaper of record in the United States and one of the most important news sources in the world. As more students, researchers, and others turn to ChatGPT and other platforms for knowledge and research, is it in the best interest of The New York Times to remain unaccountable?

If you’re protecting your content from AI, you’re no longer part of the public conversation, at least as it is represented on ChatGPT and other AI platforms. Your view is invisible. What do you risk when you and your business are unaccounted for?

My smart friend Aleksandra Pimenides recently commented in our RISE marketing community:

“AI is an important source of knowledge transmission. Teachers take something and pass it on to their students. Libraries have books for people to read and learn. Likewise, LLMs act as an intermediary of transmission. Do Newton’s descendants get paid every time a student is taught the principle of gravity? Do libraries get fined when people go there to read and learn about subjects for free? To what extent should information and knowledge be monetized? Maybe there’s a distinction to be made between knowledge and information?”

A view of the true risk

I think much of the anxiety on this subject comes from an image of some AI bot cutting and pasting your unique content without attribution. That’s not exactly how it works.

Here is an explanation from Benedict Evans, which appeared in his wonderful newsletter (edited slightly for style):

“LLMs are not databases. They deduce or infer patterns in language by seeing vast quantities of text created by people — we write things that contain logic and structure, and LLMs look at that and infer patterns from it, but they don’t keep it. So ChatGPT might have looked at thousands of stories from The New York Times, but it hasn’t kept them. Moreover, those stories themselves are just a fraction of a fraction of a percent of all the training data. The purpose is not for the LLM to know the content of any given story or any given novel — the purpose is for it to see the patterns in the output of collective human intelligence.

“This is not Napster. OpenAI hasn’t ‘pirated’ your book or your story and it isn’t handing it out for free. In Tim O’Reilly’s great phrase, data isn’t oil; data is sand. It’s only valuable in the aggregate of billions and your novel is just one grain of dust in the Great Pyramid. This isn’t supposed to be an oracle or a database. It’s supposed to be inferring ‘intelligence’ from seeing as much of how people talk (as a proxy for how they think) as possible.

“If this is, at a minimum, a foundational new technology of the next decade, and it relies on all of us collectively acting as mechanical turks to feed it, do we all get paid, or do we collectively withdraw? It seems somehow unsatisfactory to argue that “this is worth a trillion dollars, and relies on using your work, but your own individual work is only 0.0001% so you get nothing.” Is it adequate or even correct to call this ‘fair use?’ Does it matter, in either direction? Do we change our definition of fair use?”

In the United States, copyright rights are limited by the doctrine of “fair use,” under which certain uses of copyrighted material for criticism, commentary, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research may be considered fair.

As an example, I took a snippet from Benedict’s copyrighted newsletter, provided proper attribution, and used it today to teach. That’s fair use.

Here’s the problem with AI. Think of your copyrighted content as a lovely cake that you baked. It is your original and distinctive work. But inside AI, your work isn’t a cake. It’s an ingredient put into a blender to make a new cake. What’s fair use in that environment?

I dabble in watercolor painting. Seeking credit in an AI model is similar to the maker of my paints wanting attribution credit for this painting:

Even if I used one unique type of paint patented by a supplier, would I give them credit for the painting? No. I actually sold this painting. Should I give part of the revenue to Arches, the company who supplied the paper? I literally could not have made this without the paper and paint yet it is my original work, period.

Attribution

“Originality is nothing but judicious imitation.” – Voltaire

I think most of the “protecting your content from AI” conversation would disappear if we were assured we get credit for our work, in the case where credit might be important — like a meaningful, original idea. After all, we’re OK with Google scraping our content if we get credit for it in search results, right?

Let’s go back to the current state of the internet for a reality check.

In 2014, I wrote one of the most famous blog posts in marketing history, “Content Shock.” This is not idle bragging. The numbers back it up. “Content Shock” — a phrase I coined — has appeared in books, speeches, conferences, college classes, and millions of pieces of content. If you Google the term, there are 610 million results, like these:

Writing a bold post like this did its job. It helped establish thought leadership and provided thousands of links to my original article.

However.

I assure you that I have not received 610 million links back to my site! Even if I received a million links, that would mean I have attribution on just .002% of all references to my original idea.

Clearly, people are using and abusing my work without attribution. Does this mean I should block Google from accessing my post? Of course not.

As Tim O’Reilly said, data is sand that is only valuable when aggregated into something bigger. My blog post is a grain of sand in the content economy. If you want to be part of that economy, you must put pride aside.

No matter how protective I might feel about my intellectual property, it’s sand. And even if I am credited, who reads the footnotes?

In any case, I believe the problem of attribution will be resolved. It’s already happening. There are academic AI sites and writing assistants that allow you to search with references. I use an AI-powered tool through BuzzSumo that creates writing briefs with legitimate and relevant references. Very helpful, and it leads me to smart new content I can quote with attribution.

The option to learn original sources for attribution will be a more common option across all platforms eventually.

Conclusion

Comparing how content works on the web today versus content integrated into LLMs and AI search enables us to draw a rational conclusion, allowing AI bots to scrape content from our sites, at least for most businesses. AI will be a major component of search going forward.

This is a complex and evolving issue, but I believe that regulations and best practices will favor creators who allow their content to be used in LLMs over time. The attribution problem will likely be solved on many platforms and regulations will adjust to a new framing of “fair use.”

Having an effective presence within AI models and AI search utilities could result in business benefits that outweigh the risks of misusing your copyrighted content.

I’ll say once again that this is a complex issue but for most businesses, I think it makes sense to be part of the machine.

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If I had a mantra, it might be “The Most Human Company Wins.” I believe this with every part of my marketing soul.

And while my posts are peppered with my human experiences, anecdotes, and opinions, over 4,000 blog posts, I have rarely pulled back the curtain to talk about myself on a personal level. This is one of the few posts that actually carries a photo of me with it, for example!

Why would you care about me “behind the scenes?” But … maybe you do. I consistently and grotesquely underestimate how much people care about me.

I’m in a unique time in my life, and I thought it was worth sharing with you.

For the first time since I was 14 years old, I have a summer “off.” I’m still blogging and recording the podcast, but I have no deadlines, no travel, no big projects. This is by design, an experiment to see what “slowing down” might be like for me.

And I NEED to slow down. I’ve had such a great career, but my pace of work has taken a toll on my physical health, and I need to take better care of myself. I want to travel less and enjoy the journey more.

After a few months in slowdown mode, I’ve learned three things.

1. Creativity unleashed

Having time to think and dream has unleashed a flood of creativity. Relaxing has always been a way for me to generate ideas, and wow … this down period has been amazing. I have so many blog posts in the queue that I’m thinking of publishing twice a week instead of once. I have a lot of ideas to get out there!

2. The brain won’t stop

Part of this creative output is a flurry of ideas for new projects. But my dilemma is, I don’t want new projects. If I take on new work, my experiment crashes. I want to stay open and flexible. It’s a struggle to slow down.

3. Creating makes me happy

I’ve validated that creating for you, my audience, makes me happy. It’s challenging and rewarding. So there are parts of my work I want to keep over time, and parts that I need to jettison. But I will keep creating in one form or another.

The relevant creator

Now comes the tricky part. The source of my creative energy has been insights about marketing. I have a solid track record of connecting the dots in ways that help people make sense of this fast-changing world. You count on my insights.

But to be insightful, you have to be relevant. And to be relevant, you have to work like a dog. You can’t be halfway relevant.

So the challenge is, can I create something valuable without killing myself in the process? I’m open to ideas. Send me a note.

I processed this enigma through ChatGPT, and here is what it advised:

Maybe the question isn’t: Will I ever be able to relax and keep creating?
Maybe it’s: Can I redefine creation itself—so that it nourishes me, even if it no longer scales?

What if you gave yourself a new metric of relevance? One that isn’t tied to views, sales, or engagement—but to personal resonance, presence, even play?

What if relevance could be … intimate?

I have to admit the darn bot got me thinking in a new way. Re-define my creativity? View it as play?

Is today’s blog post intimate?

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I recently participated in a Q&A on the future of AI and content hosted by my friend Mark Masters. I thought the quality of questions was so good that everyone might benefit from this content. Here are the questions and my answers covering automated content, strategy, humanity, and more:

There’s a quote going around about people who aren’t using AI being replaced by people who are using AI. What’s your take on this and the broader impact of AI?

I detest that quote. This framing misses the mark. We’re not talking about a tool that simply accentuates our jobs. This is horse-and-buggy territory—if you’re in the horse and buggy business, there’s nothing you can learn about cars that will save your business. Let’s not sugar coat it: this is a fundamentally new day.

The honest truth is that nobody knows—not even the experts—what’s ultimately going to happen or how fast change will occur. I have what I humbly call the Schaefer Rule: when you look at a transformational technology and think it could change everything in the next year, triple your timeline. If you think it can happen in a year, it’ll happen in three. Technology changes quickly, but culture, society, and business infrastructure change relatively slowly.

That said, the opportunity to replace FTEs and cut costs is likely to be a major driver for AI adoption. A recent study of researchers who began using AI revealed something fascinating: as expected, they made more discoveries, filed more patents, and launched more products by using AI. But here’s the intriguing part—the best researchers became even better, creating more distance between themselves and those who are merely competent. This is a rallying cry: if you’re good at what you do, embrace AI fully. Experiment with it every day. No matter what you do, AI has the opportunity to make you better and distance you from the competition.

The Real Concerns About Automated Content

My biggest worry is, what if AI is quietly becoming the author of our work, shaping our voice and our choices. What concerns you about how we use AI as a tool for business and work?

We need to get over characterizing AI as merely a “tool.” That’s a misconception. We look at Word or Excel spreadsheets or podcasting platforms as tools to help us do something. But AI is like electricity or heat—we’re not going to be able to do business without it. It’s not just a tool; it’s something transformational.

In terms of owning our voice and content, I think of it in two ways. I love art, but I’m not an artist. I wish I could be an artist and illustrator, and AI helps me be that. I use AI to illustrate my blog posts, and there’s a lot of thought behind each one. They all look different, and some are really nuanced to reflect what’s in my writing. AI has become a search engine for my creativity, unleashing potential and giving voice to the voiceless, helping people who could never write become writers. That aspect is fantastic.

It gets concerning when AI becomes indistinguishable from human content. There was a pundit recently who said we’re going to reach a point where if you can’t tell whether content is AI or human, you won’t care. Here’s the battle plan: make them care. If you’re merely competent, you’re ignorable. If you’re competent, AI will run right over you.

Art will persist. The things we cherish most in our lives have a human connection. Right here at my desk, I’ve got a drawer full of pictures and cards my children made for me over the years. There’s a story, a connection. Art is the interpretation of the human experience, and that will always persist. Therefore, for us to thrive, our content and work must approach the level of art.

This is nothing new. The subtitle of my book Marketing Rebellion is “the most human company wins.” That’s the battle plan—add your story, heart, and passion. Show compassion in everything you do. This approach is different for many businesses, but it’s necessary.

The Future of Creativity and Work

There’s a concern that working with AI might reduce the fun of digging in and doing the work because we’re outsourcing the work. With automated content, we’re outsourcing the fun part of the work.  What are your thoughts on this?

One of my concerns is that humanity will change because we won’t want to do the hard work anymore. We’ll happily abdicate deep thinking to AI.

Let me give you an example: AI can write a book, but when I write a book, it’s like getting a master’s degree. I have researched and written for two years, and by the end, I’ve internalized the content and reached a new level of expertise. The psychological term for this is “phoresis.”

When we give up on the work, we lose this phoresis, which enables critical thinking and new intellectual capabilities. There’s an enigma here: everyone says that in this world of AI, we need better critical thinking, but AI will actually diminish our critical thinking abilities. It’s going to be an important life skill to fight for, especially for our children, because the world is moving in the opposite direction.

The problem is that if you’ve done the work yourself, you understand how to evaluate AI’s output, but if you haven’t gone through that messy middle bit, you don’t know if the output is any good.

Your concern is valid. It’s real, and it’s going to get worse because we’re not going through the work. We don’t understand the process or the output. The enigma is that while everyone is saying we need better critical thinking in this world of AI, AI will actually diminish our critical thinking. It’s going to be an important life skill we have to fight for with our children because the world is going in the opposite direction.

The Evolution of Marketing and Content

If you started your blog today, would it look different, or would you even have a blog? What would that be like?

It would not be different at all. Not in a single way. My blog and thinking evolve because I’m growing as a person. My interests shift and change, but I still write about the intersection of marketing, technology, and humanity. That’s a big umbrella. I’m a writer who enjoys intellectual challenges and conversations like this one, which are based on ideas from my books. The blog still works.

In all your years in the industrial world and marketing, is this the biggest shift you’ve seen in your career, or is it just another new thing like when the web came along?

The difference now isn’t just the importance of the shift but the speed of change. We need to look at our competencies—our personal brand or business capabilities—as the surfboard. To thrive, we don’t need to change the surfboard; we need to find the next wave.

Another key strategy is community. We can’t do it all ourselves. We need to rely on others around the world to say, “Look what I found—this might help everyone.” Community is a key survival skill.

Do you think we’re on a deep dive to automated content mediocrity, just recycling average material?

Who cares? That’s not going to be you—it’s an opportunity! If the world is average and you’re not, you’re going to stand out.

About two-thirds of all marketing and advertising gets no emotional response from consumers or businesses. If there were a CEO of world marketing and advertising, they’d be fired for incompetence. You’ll be ignored if you’re merely competent—but you don’t have to be.

My entire book (Audacious: How Humans Win in an AI Marketing World) is about disrupting the narrative—the story, where the story is told, and who tells it. Just give people something a little different. In most industries today, it’s not even that hard because everything is so boring. You just have to be one notch above crap.

Being Human in an AI World

For brands, shouldn’t tone of voice and being human be a given rather than something special?

What’s missing in brand marketing today is a true human voice that’s friendly, accessible, and vulnerable. How can you have a human voice without being vulnerable? Businesses are almost never vulnerable, so we have a long way to go, but vulnerability is what’s being listened to and cherished today.

There’s importance in being “lo-fi”—not Hollywood, not polished. We see this backlash in video games, where companies spend millions to make games look like movies, but players say, “No, we like it raw. We want it old school.” There’s a tremendous opportunity to embrace that authenticity.

I’m seeing people lose their edge or identity because they’re becoming over-reliant on AI. What are your thoughts on this?

They’re using AI as a crutch because they never had an edge in the first place.

Great marketing and content isn’t about conformity—it’s about non-conformity. If AI is taking us down a tunnel of mediocrity, great! That’s our opportunity to shine. Our rallying cry should be: “I’m quirky. I’ve got personality. I’m not going to be mediocre or average. I’m going to twist and turn things.” If everyone is zigging, I’m going to zag. That’s always been what makes marketing great.

ChatGPT is not just automated content. With a little tweaking, it can write and create really well in a human voice. How should content creators respond to this?

When ChatGPT came out, I called Shelly Palmer, a famous tech analyst here in America. I said, “What do you think?” He said, “I’m terrified. I’ve blogged almost every day for 15 years. I asked ChatGPT to write a blog post in my voice, and it did a perfect job in three seconds. I am 80% replaced.”

That does seem terrifying, but the more important question is: what is that 20%? That’s his personal brand, his humanity, the investment he’s made in blogging consistently for 15 years, building an audience that matters and cares for him. He has nothing to worry about. He’s known, trusted, beloved, and people will always turn to a human when they don’t know what’s true or real.

I feel the same way. I’m not worried people will stop reading my blog or books or hiring me when they’re confused because of my personal brand. I put in the work. On my blog, every post says “100% human content.” Proof of human is going to be super important going forward.

Do you think there will be more awareness around the responsible use of AI, and does that create a positioning opportunity for businesses with integrity?

It’s an interesting question. We see Gen Z caring more about the planet and environment than any generation ever, yet they’re driving fast fashion brands like Shein and Temu, which are terrible for the environment.

One thing I’ve been thinking about is that to fully participate in the AI world, the next evolution will be AI agents that can do work for you. But for an agent to make hotel and airline reservations, it needs your credit cards, passport, past experiences, and preferences. ChatGPT can now remember this information.

One theory is that there will be a demographic split between “AI in” and “AI out” groups. But someone recently pointed out it might be like social media or smartphones—why would you carry a device that tracks your behavior and tells companies who you are? But we do, because we’ve resigned ourselves to the benefits. People might care more about the personal benefits of giving their lives over to AI than about environmental or ethical concerns.

With all the changes happening, how can we know that humans will still win in the end?

Despite AI’s capabilities, I’m using it extensively to boost my productivity, accomplishing tasks I always hated doing. The traffic to my website is soaring, and financially, I’m having the best year of my entire life—all while AI supposedly should be doing everything I do better.

I think what people appreciate about me is that they know it’s genuinely me. I care deeply, and it means a lot to set an example and lift people up. I want to be bold, honest, and unafraid to help people sort through the truth without trying to sell them programs.

I’m not worried about AI. I see this as the most fascinating time ever. Embrace it, have fun with it, but keep your eyes open about what’s coming next—and rely on your community.

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I’ve known Carla Johnson for many years and admire her book on creativity. I was lucky enough to have her sub-in as a co-host of The Marketing Companion to talk about the crisis of imagination in the marketing field when I had a revelation.

She said that one of the things that derail our creativity is “living up to what we think is expected of us.” This hit me like a thunderbolt, and I think it unraveled a mystery for me.

In the early days of my blogging, I was a nut. It was really sort of a stream of consciousness that may or may not have anything to do with marketing or blogging. I felt like I was at a creative peak. Most notably, I was funny.

Here is a blog post from 2010 imagining what Barbie would be like on Twtter. It holds up. Still made me laugh!

I am acutely aware that I don’t show up as funny as I used to. Sure, I can be entertaining — a clever phrase, maybe even a dad joke here and there. But for many years, I’ve never written a post with the explicit goal of being funny.

And I never knew why. Am I simply not as funny as I used to be? Has the pressure of success changed me in some way? Am I less carefree or less creative?

When Carla put this issue in the perspective of status, it provided a clue to the mystery. In 2010, I wasn’t an author or speaker. I was just establishing my post-corporate “second career.” I had nothing to lose so I just let it roll.

Today it;s different. I know that people look up to me. It feels awkward to say that, but I recognize that I’m in a privileged position to have a platform where people pay attention to me. I can set an example and I take that seriously. I’m proud of my work but recognize that the creative output is different.

Any way, my conversation with Carla got me thinking and I think you’ll enjoy it too. In this podcast episode, we get into some deep ideas about content and creativity. One of the most fun shows I’ve ever done!

Click here to enjoy Marketing Companion Episode 313

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